DEEPHAVEN BOAT COMMITTEE
Wednesday, November 10, 2004
Minutes
Vice-Chairman David Paulson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
David Paulson, Larry Parkhurst, Joe Ladner, Steve Pavek, Pete Onstad, Ed Towey, John Gresens, Council Liaison Kim Crockett, Administrator Dana Young
Oliver Arrett
The Committee approved the October 13, 2004 minutes on a motion by Joe Ladner, seconded by John Gresens. Motion declared carried.
Steve Pavek stated that he and several other Committee members had a long-range planning meeting earlier this evening to discuss future dock configurations. He stated that the meeting focused on the possible replacement of the Carson’s Bay docks next year and indicated that there was a real need to review city maps of Carson’s Bay to start developing design plans.
David Paulson asked what were the Committee member’s observations during their review of the dock facilities at Wayzata, Mound and Excelsior. Steve Pavek stated that the other cities had much nicer docks and he was particularly impressed with Mound’s floating dock system. David Paulson asked what was the next step in the long-range planning process? Steve Pavek stated that getting maps from the City is the first step, which would enable each member to look at the entire scope of the current and future dock and slide configurations.
Discussion was held on the proposed Ordinance that would impose weight restrictions on the launching of boats from the public launches on Carson’s Bay and St. Louis Bay. Dana Young stated that he had not obtained a response from the City of Minnetonka on whether they had imposed weight restrictions at the Gray’s Bay launch following the incident involving the launching of an overly large cruise boat that had apparently caused damage to the launch ramp. He stated that he had included a weight of 4,500 lbs. in the proposed ordinance because he had been informed this was a maximum weight for a boat and trailer that an SUV could handle.
Pete Onstad stated that he felt an SUV could handle up to 6,000 lbs. and knew of a resident that launched a boat using a trailer with a combined weight of between 10,000-12,000 lbs. John Gresens stated that we need to find out the tonnage of a cruiser like the kind used by Al & Almas. Pete Onstad stated that he could find out that information for the Committee by next month’s meeting.
Ed Towey stated that he would prefer to leave this issue alone, but added that if we are considering imposing weight restrictions we need to control vehicle weight as well and boat and trailer weight.
The Committee tabled further discussion on the issue until further information is obtained on possible weight limits.
The Committee reviewed Ordinance No. 9-13 that proposed to eliminate subletting requirements. The Committee recommended the following additions and (deletions) to the proposed ordinance:
(a) A person entitled to a new permit may waive the right to such permit within seven (7) days by
(b) No person will be allowed the opportunity to waive the right to a new permit more than once. Any
person waiving the right to a new permit a second time shall be moved to the lowest priority on the
waiting list for that type of space.
The Committee recommended approval of the ordinance with the proposed changes noted above and deleting that section of the ordinance pertaining to the establishment of weight limits on a motion by John Gresens, seconded by Larry Parkhurst. Motion declared carried.
Discussion was held regarding the five Boat Committee subcommittees on Membership, Visioning & Long-Range Planning, Operations, Financial and Compliance & Usage. David Paulson asked if there were any recommendations regarding the continued use of these subcommittees. Steve Pavek stated that the Boat Committee should have no more than three subcommittees and recommended keeping Financial, Membership and combining the remaining subcommittees into one larger subcommittee.
David Paulson stated that he liked the idea of combining the subcommittees. He stated that everyone is busy and it has been difficult to schedule subcommittee meetings.
Pete Onstad stated that he felt the subcommittees need more direction and be given specific task oriented assignments. Joe Ladner noted that former Chairman Bob Voyles did a very good job in assigning tasks to each subcommittee.
David Paulson suggested holding a combined meeting with the Planning Commission to discuss issues. Ed Towey stated that such a meeting would only be effective if there were a common issue. He suggested that the Boat Committee consider meeting every other month with subcommittees meeting in-between the official Boat Committee meetings.
David Paulson stated that there might be a real possibility of the Boat Committee losing ground if we met only every other month. Pete Onstad suggested that the Boat Committee could meet formally every month, with the subcommittee meetings devoting the first half-hour of their meeting to official business before turning it over to subcommittees. David Paulson stated that the Committee would have to reconfigure the memberships on the subcommittees such that you wouldn’t have more than one member per subcommittee.
David Paulson stated that he would be out of town for the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Boat Committee on December 8th and asked if there would be any interest in meeting the following week. Several other Committee members had conflict with meeting the following week so the Committee decided to meet on its regularly scheduled date.
David Paulson asked Ed Towey if he had a design for the proposed canoe dock that will be installed over the culvert on St. Louis Bay. Ed Towey stated that he had not yet prepared the design. Dana Young suggested that the Public Works crew could present a design for Committee review in the next few months.
David Paulson reminded the Committee that a selection of the 2005 Chairperson should be made at the December meeting.
Motion to adjourn by Joe Ladner, seconded by John Gresens. Motion declared carried. The meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Boat Committee will be held on Wednesday, December 8, 2004.