DEEPHAVEN BOAT COMMITTEE
Wednesday, May
10, 2006
Minutes
Chairman
David Paulson called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
David Paulson, Pete Onstad, Darel Gustafson, Larry Parkhurst, Steve Pavek, Council Liaison Keith Kask, Administrator Dana Young
Ed
Towey, Marc Anderson, Oliver Arrett
There
were no matters from the floor.
Dana
Young stated that the purpose of this ordinance was to clarify the language in
this particular section of the Watercraft Space Ordinance and to more clearly
specify the appeals process for those permit holders in violation of the 90 day
usage requirement and the June 15th deadline requirement.
Darel
Gustafson moved to recommend approval of Ordinance No. 09-15, Amending Section
900.07, Subd. 2, as presented. Seconded
by Steve Pavek. Motion carried 5-0.
Dana
Young provided information on No Wake Buoys and dock setback lines that had
been raised at the April 12th Boat Committee meeting. He stated that requesting new No Wake Buoys
or an adjustment in the location of an existing No Wake Buoy involves two
agencies:
·
The LMCD determines No Wake Areas.
·
Hennepin County Environmental Services sets out and maintains the
buoys.
Dana
Young stated that Judd Harper, with the LMCD, recommended that both agencies
should be contacted on a request for a new buoy or an adjustment to the
location of an existing No Wake Buoy.
Discussion was held on whether to proceed with Pat Florance’s request to
relocate one of the No Wake Buoys at the entrance to St. Louis Bay. It was suggested that the Committee members,
such as Pete Onstad and Steve Pavek, who have their boats moored at St. Louis
Bay should take a look at the No Wake Buoy in question and report back to the
full Committee with their recommendations.
Dana
Young stated that the setback lines for multiple docks, according to Judd
Harper with the LMCD, are as follows:
Distance fromShoreline |
Side Setback from AbuttingNon-Multiple Dock |
Side Setback fromAbutting Multiple Dock |
|
1st
50 feet |
20’ |
10’ |
|
After
50 feet |
30’ |
15’ |
Dana Young stated that the Committee recommended last month that four of the remaining six slide spaces in St. Louis Bay should be used for larger boats with a roll-n-go slide. He stated that there are a couple of issues that have an impact on this recommendation including:
1. Who pays for the new roll-n-go slides?
2. And, the number of available slides may be reduced due to fact that Slide #79-81 in St. Louis Bay is practically unusable due to the amount of sand covering the slide. He stated that the City might need to obtain a permit from the DNR to dredge out the sand to enable boats on Slide #79-81 to access the lake.
Steve
Pavek stated that he is pretty confident that he could install roll-n-go slides
on this slide and provide the boats with ready access to the lake.
David
Paulson stated that he would be supportive of installing roll-n-go slides for
those permit holders with the larger Boston Whalers and for someone like Tom
Brislin, who has a disability that makes it difficult for him to use a regular
slide. He stated that the Boat Committee
has generated a lot of ideas but seems to be continually spinning our wheels in
getting something actually accomplished.
He stated that the purchase of the roll-n-go slides for the whalers
would enable the Committee to test how well these boats fit together on the
slide spaces.
Larry
Parkhurst stated that further investment in roll-n-go slides could be in
conflict with what the Committee is proposing to do with the shoreline.
Darel
Gustafson asked what are we testing by purchasing additional roll-n-go slides
for whalers?
Steve
Pavek stated that we are testing to see if larger boats would work stored on
land. Darel Gustafson stated that we
already know that the roll-n-go slides can accommodate a grade of up to 30%.
David
Paulson stated that the test would demonstrate how well these larger boats fit
together, do they provide a better boating experience, how well they improve
the appearance of the shoreline and the best location for the roll-n-go slides.
Pete
Onstad stated that he thought the Committee had already decided that the
resident would purchase roll-n-go slides.
David Paulson stated that the City could buy 5 or 6 of the roll-n-go
slides and sell them next year if they wanted to.
Dana
Young stated that this interim period during the Committee’s review of whether
to permit larger boats on slides has been somewhat confusing both for staff and
residents. He stated that on the one
hand, the City has an ordinance that prohibits boats wider than 5’ 4” on slides
yet we are also overlooking those boats that currently exceed that standard and
even reward those with larger boats by placing them on a roll-n-go slide.
Steve
Pavek moved to have the Committee review two ramp masters that are stored with
Boston Whalers on Slide #79-81 at St. Louis Bay at next month’s meeting so that
the Committee can review the space, aesthetics and the accommodation of larger
and smaller boats. Seconded by Pete
Onstad. Motion carried 5-0.
Dana
Young stated that the City Engineer would be surveying the property lines at
Carson’s Bay and St. Louis Bay Marinas at a cost of approximately $1,500. He stated that he thought there was a
possibility the survey would be ready for next month’s meeting.
Further
discussion was held on the status of the Comprehensive Dock Plan and on a list
of items that still need to be addressed in a final plan. The outstanding items that were mentioned
included providing access to buoys, the waiting list issue and how to address
current slide permit holders if the number of slides are reduced to accommodate
larger boats. Darel Gustafson stated
that this latter item could be clarified somewhat by knowing the number of
slide permit holders who are also within the top 40 on the waiting list for dock
slips.
Pete
Onstad stated that the Committee should better define the scope of the
Comprehensive Plan. He stated that he
didn’t think the plan could include everything because the Committee is just
going to get mired in issues.
Keith
Kask stated that it is difficult to separate the issues since the Boat
Committee acts as an advisory body for the management of marina resources
including both physical facilities and policy and administrative matters.
Motion to adjourn by Steve Pavek, seconded by Pete Onstad. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting adjourned at 8:43 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Boat Committee will be held on Wednesday, June 14, 2006.