Call Meeting to Order

Vice-Chairman Pete Onstad called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m.

Members Present

Pete Onstad, Darel Gustafson, Larry Parkhurst, Steve Pavek, Ed Towey, Council Liaison Keith Kask, Administrator Dana Young

Marc Anderson and David Paulson arrive at 8:00 p.m.

Members Absent

Oliver Arrett

June 14, 2006 Minutes

The Committee approved the June 14, 2006 minutes on a motion by Ed Towey, seconded by Larry Parkhurst. Motion carried 5-0.

Matters from the Floor

Discussion was held on holding a meeting with new candidates to interview for vacant positions on the Boat Committee. Steve Pavek offered to contact the candidates and request their attendance at the August 9^th Boat Committee meeting. The Committee requested that Dana Young contact Oliver Arrett to see if he was still interested in serving on the Committee.

Council Action on St. Louis Bay, Slide Widths, Survey, Tom Brislin

Keith Kask gave a brief summary of the Council’s decision concerning Tom Brislin, the survey request, St. Louis Bay and on slide widths. In regards to Tom Brislin, he stated that the Council did not appoint Mr. Brisling to the Boat Committee as recommended due to concerns that Mr. Brislin might have a boat on a slide and a sailboat that exceed the width and length requirements. He stated that the Council did not want to act on Mr. Brislin’s appointment until it can be determined whether this was accurate or not. Steve Pavek noted that he had talked with Mr. Brislin and stated that Mr. Brislin was planning to verify the length of his sailboat to see if it was in compliance with the 25-foot length requirement.

Keith Kask stated that in regards to the request for surveys of St. Louis Bay and Carson’s Bay, the Council felt that the City had their own resources available, particularly in St. Louis Bay, that would help to show the dimensions of the Marina. He stated that the Council hoped that this would lower the costs of the survey dramatically.

Ed Towey asked about the Council’s decision concerning the survey of Carson’s Bay. Keith Kask stated that Carson’s Bay appears to be a second priority to the Council. He added that he was unsure that we could totally eliminate slides as shown in the proposed plan for Carson’s Bay.

Keith Kask stated that in regards to slide widths, he stated that the Council would be interested in seeing a plan that provides for wider boats. He stated that the Council has even agreed to fewer Boat Storage Units if that is the result of wider boats on slides. He stated, however, that the Council is being challenged by residents who are objecting to those boats that are wider than the 5’4” width requirement and the Council felt that had to address this concern by requiring compliance with the regulations by the 2007 Boating Season.

Comprehensive Plan Review with David Gross, LMCD Liaison

David Gross, Deephaven’s LMCD Liaison, was present to discuss his impressions regarding the proposed plans for St. Louis Bay and Carson’s Bay. He stated that the LMCD would be conducting inspections of St. Louis Bay and Carson’s Bay within the next several weeks to determine if sailboats and boats are in violation of LMCD length standards.

St. Louis Bay -

He stated that the St. Louis Bay plan would require a request before the LMCD to change the license but doubted if it would even require a public hearing. He stated that the LMCD Board would probably be happy to see the shore space removed and that no additional variances would be required.

Pete Onstad stated that four of the boats on the shore space currently exceed 24 feet and asked David Gross if he felt if it would be an issue to move them to the new docks. David Gross stated that it would be an issue but probably not insurmountable. He stated that several of the dock spaces would have to be longer to accommodate the longer boats. He added that the revised dock plan would have to show the longer docks.

Discussion was held regarding slides and the accommodation of wider boats.

Darel Gustafson presented proposed ordinance changes that would be required to accommodate the proposed dock plan. The ordinance changes included revised length and width requirements on slides, city-owned rowboats for sailboats, would require roll-n-go’s for all larger slides and establish usage requirements. It was the general feeling of the Committee that a usage requirement, while desirable, could not be effectively enforced.

Further discussion was held on requiring roll-n-go’s for each of the wider boats. Darel Gustafson suggested leaving the discussion on whether the roll-n-go’s should be funded by the permit holders or through the rates to the Council.

Keith Kask stated that a plan should be designed to provide for the type and style of boats that are currently available. Ed Towey suggested keeping the same number of smaller slides for the sailboats and turn the rest into larger slides.

The Committee reviewed the number of licensed spaces granted by the LMCD, which were 222 in 2006 and which did not include buoys. Ed Towey estimated that of this number, 165 BSU’s (including buoys) were in St. Louis Bay. David Gross recommended that the Committee make sure that the number of proposed BSU’s in the revised dock plan equal the number of licensed spaces granted by the LMCD for St. Louis Bay.

After substantial discussion, the following spaces were recommended to be included on the revised plan:

Shore spaces - 1 (for the Yacht Club)

Dock slips - 62

Buoys - 28

Slides - 74

Total - 165 BSU”s

It was further decided that at least 17 of the slides should be designed to hold two wider boats and 8 slides should be available for three boats at 5’4” each. The remaining 16 slide spaces can be determined based on the remaining space available along the shoreline.

Pete Onstad stated that at the next meeting the Committee should finalize the number of BSU’s at St. Louis Bay, provide bullet point discussion items for presentation to the City Council in August, determine realistic boat size and weights for the slides, and finalize the proposed plan. The Committee discussed the possibility of holding a special meeting to review these items the week of July 24^th.

David Paulson asked David Gross for his opinion on Carson’s Bay. David Gross stated that the Carson’s Bay plan presented a number of problems for the LMCD, including:

· The dock plan is extensive enough to where it would be treated as a new application and must meet all applicable LMCD codes.

· There are length issues as the proposed dock is 150” long.

· The property lines of the Yacht Club and Randy Boyd’s property could severely limit the dock use area of Carson’s Bay, resulting in a much smaller dock use area than the City currently enjoys.

· The docks are shown as too close to the moorings.

· The maneuvering area is too small.

Steve Pavek asked if a new application would be needed in Carson’s Bay if the existing docks were simply replaced with new docks. David Gross stated that the current configuration would likely not need a new application if there would be no change in the footprint from the existing docks.

David Paulson stated that this information was quite a bit different than what Mr. Gross informed the Committee last year. David Paulson stated that David Gross informed the Committee that the plan should represent what’s best for the City of Deephaven. David Gross stated that what’s best for Deephaven is to get along with their neighbors.

The Committee thanked David Gross for meeting with the Committee to share his thoughts on the proposed dock plans.

Adjournment

Motion to adjourn by Steve Pavek, seconded by Larry Parkhurst. Motion carried 7-0. The meeting adjourned at 9:53 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Boat Committee will be held on Wednesday, August 9, 2006.