DEEPHAVEN CITY COUNCIL
MONDAY,
NOVEMBER 6, 2006
7:00 P.M.
1.
CALL MEETING TO ORDER: Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Pro Tem Skrede, Councilmembers Kim Crockett, Keith Kask and John Wheaton
STAFF: Police Chief Virgil Gustafson and
City Administrator Dana Young
ABSENT: Mayor Tom Anderson
2.
APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA
Motion
by Councilmember Wheaton to approve the consent agenda, consisting of the
minutes of October 16, 2006, the Verified Accounts, Approval of the Park
Committee Recommendations, Approval of Lakeview Avenue Storm Sewer Repair/Storm
Sewer Equipment, Approval of the Fiscal Agent Services Agreement, Adopt
Resolution No. 25-06, Requesting Review of EFD Allocation Formula and Authorize
the Hiring of Benjamin Nordell as a Police Officer. Seconded by Councilmember
Kask. Motion carried 4-0.
3.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Police
Chief Gustafson gave the Council a brief background on the newly appointed
Police Officer, Benjamin Nordell.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede administered the oath of office to Officer Nordell.
4.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A.
Variance – Bob and Colleen
Wilson,
Zoning
Coordinator Karpas outlined the variance request for the Council. He noted that the City Engineer reviewed the
plan and verified that there were no steep slopes on the property, per the
request by the Planning Commission.
Bob
Wilson discussed the request. He and his
wife have been residents of the city for a number of years and are looking to
downsize to a one-level home. They have
worked to design a home that would maintain the character of the
neighborhood. Mr. Wilson discussed the
variance criteria and said they have a hardship due to the size and shape of
the lot. He noted that only the front
porch encroaches into the required front yard setback.
Councilmember
Crockett gave the Planning Commission report informing the Council that the
Planning Commission unanimously recommended that the Council approve the request. They felt a hardship exists in the size and
shape of the lot and the increased setback requirement for the undeveloped
road.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede opened the public hearing. Hearing no public comment, the hearing was closed.
Councilmember Crockett moved to approve a variance permitting a nine foot, seven inch variance of the required thirty-five front yard setback and a ten foot variance of the required twenty-five foot corner lot, rear yard setback for the proposed single family home as presented. A hardship exists in the size and shape of the lot and the increased setback requirement for the undeveloped road. Seconded by Councilmember Kask. Motion carried 4-0.
B.
Variance – Mike and Karol
Zegarac,
Zoning
Coordinator Karpas summarized the request for the Council.
Mike
Zegarac discussed the request. He said
his wife has been in the home for twenty years and noted that her property was
platted in 1949. He feels his request
would have no affect on the adjacent right-of-way since he does not believe a
road will ever be constructed on the site.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede noted that there had been a road there in the past, but that it
was closed many years ago. He informed
the Council that a request to vacate the road was brought before the Public
Works Committee from Mr. Zegarac. The
Public Works Committee was reluctant to vacate the road since there is a large
sewer line running within the right-of-way.
They directed Mr. Zegarac to pursue a variance.
Mr.
Zegarac said he understood the reasoning of the Public Works Committee, but
that he would be willing to grant a utility easement to the city if the road
were to be vacated.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede opened the public hearing.
Councilmember
Crockett gave the Planning Commission report informing the Council that the
Planning Commission unanimously recommended that the Council deny the
request. They felt an undue hardship had
not been demonstrated to justify the need for a variance in the configuration
presented to the Commission. The Commission
did feel, however, that the Council should consider granting a variance for a
reduced setback ranging from seven and a half feet to ten feet based on the
unique situation present on the applicant’s property.
Frank
Jewett, 3605 Parkway said he uses the path on the right-of-way and asked how
the proposed placement of the garage would affect the path. Mr. Zegarac said there would be no effect and
that the garage would appear to be located on his property.
Mr.
Zegarac said the location was selected so it would not interfere with a future
planned addition and that he could pull a driveway straight off
Councilmember
Kask noted that property already has an attached two-stall garage. He said that even though the road is not
developed, the ordinance does require a twenty-five foot setback. He believes there are design alternatives
available that would not require a variance.
He is not supportive of a zero setback.
Councilmember Crockett asked if he would support an alternate
setback. Kask said the existing
structure is already encroaching, sitting fifteen and a half feet from the
property line. It doesn’t matter who the
owner is, it’s still an adjacent property line and setbacks apply. He is concerned about setting precedence.
Mr. Zegarac said it would only set precedence
if there were other properties with the same unique circumstances. Councilmember Wheaton noted that the neighbor
on the other side of the undeveloped road could request the same type of
setback.
Councilmember
Kask said he could not find a practical difficulty or hardship for the request,
especially since the home already has a two-stall garage.
Dick
Brown, 19155 Azure Road, said that setbacks were only three feet from the rear
and side property lines.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede asked if the Council is restricted to vote on what is being
presented. Councilmember Kask said he
doesn’t believe he can vote on any amended plan without one in front of the
Council. Councilmember Wheaton agreed,
saying he would like to see an amended plan.
Mr.
Zegarac said he was given the impression that the Council could approve an
amended plan without a new proposal. He
said he would have submitted an alternative plan if he had known.
Councilmember
Crockett told the Council that the applicant was told he could proceed with his
request and that the Council has the authority to amend the plan at their
meeting. She noted that the Planning
Commission recommendation included their support for an amended setback between
seven and a half and ten feet. Mr.
Zegarac said he could live with a seven and a half foot setback.
Councilmember
Kask said the setback is twenty-five feet and that the existing home is only
fifteen feet away from the property line.
He believes there should be no further encroachment beyond what
currently exists. He understands the
reasoning for the request, but said the closed road right-of-way is still a
platted street.
Councilmember
Wheaton stated he would support a seven and a half foot setback.
Hearing
no further public comment, the hearing was closed.
Councilmember Wheaton moved to approve a variance permitting a seventeen and a half foot variance of the required twenty-five foot corner lot, north side yard setback for the proposed detached garage. A hardship exists in uniqueness of the property. Seconded by Councilmember Crockett for discussion.
Councilmember Crockett commented that the existence of an existing garage had been overlooked. She noted the Council have worked with others in the past in situations where there was no garage present. Councilmember Kask said he’s not sure that an undue hardship has been demonstrated.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede asked if there were any plans to convert the existing garage into living space when the addition is built. Mr. Zegarac said there were no plans to convert the area. He also noted that the existing garage was not adequate due to its size.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede called the question. On the motion to approve a seventeen and a
half foot variance of the required twenty-five foot corner lot, side yard
setback Councilmembers Crockett, Skrede and
C.
Ordinance Amendment. Second reading of Ordinance
No. 13-42, an amendment to Section 1310.10(1)(c) of the Zoning Code by adding
language for an increased setback and screening provisions for swimming pools.
Zoning Coordinator Karpas presented the ordinance,
saying it had been amended based on the comments from City Councilmembers.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede opened the public hearing. Hearing no public comment, the hearing was closed.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede commented that the phrase “in no instance shall the setback be less than fifteen feet” be added to Subdivision 2(c), which discusses setback for related equipment.
Councilmembers agreed to the amendment.
ACTION: Motion by Councilmember Kask to adopt
Ordinance No. 13-42, amending Section 1310.10(1)(c) of
the Zoning Ordinance by adding language requiring an increased setback and
screening provisions for swimming pools, as amended. Councilmember Wheaton seconded the motion.
The motion carried 4-0.
D.
Ordinance Amendment. First reading of Ordinance No.
13-41, an amendment to Section 1310.10(1)(d) of the Zoning Code by adding
language defining a connection between an accessory structure and a principle
structure.
Zoning Coordinator Karpas presented the ordinance,
saying it would define exactly what would be considered an attachment between
an accessory structure and principle structure.
Councilmember Crockett gave the Planning Commission
report, informing the Council that the Planning Commission unanimously
recommended that the Council approve the proposed ordinance amendment.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede opened the public hearing. Hearing no public comment, the hearing was closed.
Councilmember Crockett explained to those in
attendance that the ordinance sought to make the connection between principle
and accessory structures more architecturally compatible.
ACTION: Motion by Councilmember Crockett to adopt
Ordinance No. 13-41, amending Section 1310.10(1)(d) of
the Zoning Ordinance by adding language defining a connection between an
accessory structure and principle structure.
Councilmember Kask seconded the motion.
The motion carried 4-0.
5.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede said the intent of tonight’s discussion is to look at the
concept of lease limits on city resources.
He said there is not an official document before the Council for action, rather the Council is seeking input on the need for
such limits and any ideas on how to regulate such limits. He said there will be at least one more
opportunity for residents to speak on the issue and he asked that those wishing
to speak be mindful so as to not reiterate points that have already been made.
George
Sayer,
Councilmember
Crockett said this would be one of the toughest decisions an elected official
must make in the city. She said that
there have been a couple of proposals submitted to the Council by herself and
Councilmember Wheaton that would be discussed tonight.
Tom
Breslin, 3675 Parkway asked if there would eventually be a referendum for
residents to vote on regarding this issue.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede said that this issue could not legally be included
on a ballot as a referendum. Mr. Breslin
asked how the Council would be able to decide what’s best for the community as
a whole. Skrede said there would be a
Townhall meeting to allow all those interested in making their views heard to
speak. City Administrator Young said
that State law prohibits an issue like this from being a referendum vote,
though other options, such as a survey could be conducted to gauge the views of
the residents.
Mr.
Breslin is concerned that a small, vocal group could somehow change the city’s
current policy, even though they are in the minority. Mayor Pro Tem Skrede said the issue of term
limits was discussed in 2003, but the Council decided to take no action to
change the policy. He said the Council
would like the opportunity to revisit the issue and solicit public input. Councilmember Crockett reminded the audience
that there was no specific document in front of the Council for their
consideration. She said the idea was to
use tonight’s meeting to get a discussion started on the issue.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede said he would like Councilmembers Crockett and
Councilmember
Crockett said the essence of her plan was to phase in term limits as new leases
are signed. She would like to develop a
sliding scale for those resources that already have leases that exceed that ten
year period. She has not run the data on
those leases to determine what the timeline would be. She said the rules were set by the city a
long time ago, and this discussion is not intended to paint those holding city
resources as the bad guy. She believes
that the city was being generous when the rules were originally set and there
has been reluctance, on the part of past Councils, to change the rules.
Councilmember
Crockett said there is a status quo when it comes to city docks. She noted that there are four hundred people
currently on the waiting list, noting the next in line on the list has been on
the list for twenty-one years. She gave
the breakdown of the current dock holders saying eighteen percent have had
their docks less than five years, twenty-one percent have had their docks
between five and ten years, that thirty-one percent have had their dock between
twenty and thirty years and that thirty percent have had their docks in excess
of twenty years. She said she has
calculated that 5.4 space turnover every year, using data based on the last
five years. She said that this works out
to about 5.7% of the city’s resource being made available to residents on an
annual basis.
Councilmember
Crockett noted that the introduction of a fee to remain on the list did drop a
large number of people from the list, which gave the Council a more accurate
view of who was truly interested in a city resource.
Councilmember
Crockett said there is some natural attrition that takes place but noted it was
small. She said that eight people
dropped off the list, with another resident declining a dock in 2006, that
seventeen dropped off the list in 2005 and that five dropped off the list in
2004. She said this
averages to about 10.3 moves annually.
She said applying that to the current list and length of current
resource holders, the expected time on the wait list for a new resident is 25.5
years. She again noted that thirty
percent of those on the docks have held their resource for over twenty years.
She
said the four hundred families on the list could not enjoy the resource, saying
only the ninety-four currently using the resource benefit. She said the topic of discussion is how can this be changed to make it more equitable. She said that there is no option to expand
the number of resources so the number of current resources frames the
discussion.
Councilmember
Wheaton said his proposal looks to address what he believes to be a flawed
policy. He said the system is flawed in
the following ways. First, it is based
on a first come, first serve basis. He
said that’s outdated in that when the system was first designed, there was far
less demand for the resources. He said a
new system must be developed that reasonably benefits all residents.
The
second flaw is that the current systems shuts out most
residents creating a de facto ownership of a city resource by those currently
leasing the sites. He said the final
flaw is that the system undervalues the city resource in that the fees charged
for usage are far below market rate.
Councilmember
Wheaton said the city could address the flaws through a stepped fee structure
that would charge a rate one-third the market rate for the first five years a
resource is held, then increase the rate to two-thirds market rate for years
five through ten and charge full market rate for each year thereafter. He said he had not built in a term limit
process and is still not sure that is the way to go to generate turnover.
Councilmember
Wheaton said the increased monies generated under his system would go into a
fund for park improvements in the city.
He noted that the city’s parks are enjoyed by all residents and that by
using these fees, there is a potential to lower taxes. He said his plan would not change the way the
list currently works, rather it would increase the movement on the list. He said those using the resource would still
benefit from a below market rate resource and others from the improvements to
the city’s parks.
Councilmember
Kask said there’s always the option to do nothing. He said at this time, the Boat Committee has
not been asked to look at a specific proposal.
He said this is the first time the Council is taking a look at making a
substantive change. He said that he has
heard that when the land at
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede noted that excess funds from the Marina Fund could be used
elsewhere. City Administrator Young said
the Marina Fund is an Enterprise Fund, meaning that it’s self-supporting. He said it’s not uncommon to transfer funds
for use elsewhere.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede summarized the proposals from Councilmembers Crockett and
Paul
Ahern,
Jim
Friedlander,
Tom
Breslin, 3675 Parkway, would like to know for sure that change is needed. He thought the proposals were good, but
questions if that is what the residents of Deephaven want. He believes change is good, but questions the
driving force behind this renewed effort for change. If only a handful of people want change, he
would not be supportive of it.
Councilmember Crockett said the Council is charged with the responsibility
to manage the resources of the city. She
said if she feels one is being mismanaged, then it’s her responsibility to
address the issue.
Chris
Doman,
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede called for a recess at 8:55.
The meeting reconvened at 9:00.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede reiterated that the intent of tonight’s discussion
is to solicit ideas on how to address the length of the waiting list. He reminded the audience that there would be
a Townhall meeting to discuss this issue in the future if the Council decides
to further explore specific proposals..
Frank
Jewett, 3605 Parkway, said he has had a dock for a number of years. He said the fairest, most realistic way to
handle city resources is to play by the rules.
He noted that recent rule changes, like the increase in fees, have not
had time to take effect in terms of creating turnover. He said Councilmember Crockett’s figures on
turnover do not take into account the amount of turnover that will be taking
place in the next few years due to age and the like. He questioned why issues like fee increases
and the increase of the number of dock spaces in
John
Haugsland,
Mike
Kelly,
Tom
Garneau,
Tom
McGoldrick,
Warren
Nelson,
Mike
Halvorson,
Dave
Jackson,
Paul
Gesme,
George
Sayer, 3705 Westview, agrees with Mr. Gesme that the list needs to turnover
more rapidly and he also supports a ten percent annual turnover. He said residents have to learn to share the
available resources. He believes usage
needs to be monitored and some type of timeshare program be put into place.
Councilmember
Crockett said the city does allow joint leases.
Greg
Obermiller,
Councilmember
Wheaton said fee increases could be periodically reviewed, so if there is not a
demand for the resource, the fee can be adjusted downward. His idea is to give something back to the
non-users of the resource who receive no benefit under the current system.
Ed
Towey,
Larry
Parkhurst,
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede thanked the audience for their participation and reminded them
that this item would be discussed again in the future if the Council agreed
upon a specific proposal.
He called for a recess at 9:35.
The meeting was reconvened at 9:40.
Police
Chief Gustafson informed the Council that Sergeant Ron Liners has submitted a
letter of resignation effective December 24, 2006. He said that Sergeant Liners has served the
city well for twenty-five years and will be missed.
Motion by Councilmember Crockett to accept the letter of resignation
submitted by Sergeant Liners.
Councilmember Wheaton seconded the motion. The motion carried 4-0.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede informed the Council that Sergeant Liners has expressed interest
in serving the community in the capacity of a Community Service Officer in
the future.
6.
NEW BUSINESS
City
Administrator Young informed the Council that the City of
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede noted that the earlier agreement also charged costs for
infrastructure over a period of time, but now
it will beis billed
to the church up front.
Motion by Councilmember Crockett to approve the amendment of the
Agreement for Water Service to the
B.
Discuss Continuation of
Group Health Coverage to Spouse
City
Administrator Young said a request has been made to the Council to include
spouses and children on a formerof a
retiring employee’s health plan.
Ron Liners has requested that he be permitted to continue the coverage
for his wife after he retires. Young
said the city policy would need to be changed in order to do so.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede asked how many people who have retired from the city have continued
their health coverage after they left.
City Administrator Young said that only one as of this date. He said being able to continue health
coverage is a big benefit especially for police officers who retire at a
younger age.
Councilmember
Kask said he’s not opposed to the idea, but the Council should keep in mind if
a spouse or child of a former employee has health issues, it would affect the
group coverage as a whole. He said it’s
not uncommon to continue a policy for former employees, but typically it’s
limited to eighteen months under Cobra.
He said the city could adopt a policy to extend health coverage to a
former employee until the age of 65, when they become eligible for Medicare.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede said the costs wouldn’t be coming out of the city’s pocket since
the premium would be the responsibility of the former employee. Councilmember Kask reminded him that health
issues of the former employee or his or her dependent could affect the cost to
the entire group.
Councilmember
Kask said any policy should include a requirement that the spouse be a plan
participant at the time of separation from the city. If so, they can continue on the plan only
until the spouse or former employee reaches age 65.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede asked that language be drafted and shown to Mr. Liners to verify
what the Council is discussing is what he was thinking.
Councilmember
Crockett said her only concern is that we are creating an incentive to have
spouses drop other coverage and participate on the city’s plan prior to the
separation of the employee. City
Administrator Young said that was a legitimate concern.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede asked if a condition can be placed on the coverage based on the
number of years of service.
Councilmember Kask said he’s not sure that would meet a means test and
that any extension must be offered to all employees. City Administrator Young said he could
research the issue and have something for the Council at their next meeting.
Councilmember
Kask said the purpose of Cobra was to limit exposure and by creating an open
ended plan, the city’s exposure is extended.
C.
Discuss Agenda Setting
Policy
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede said that standards need to be set for placing miscellaneous items on the agenda. He said the intend is not to railroad items off the agenda, but there needs to be a discussion, especially when there may be a majority of Councilmembers who may not support an item not previously discussed or expected on the agenda.
City Administrator Young said there are a number of ways to set an agenda and that the city does not currently have a policy. He said he typically sets the agenda and usually gets some comments from the Mayor before it is finalized. He said a category can be added under new business to discuss any items a Councilmember may want to add to the agenda.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede suggested that Councilmembers be given an opportunity to review the agenda before it is finalized and placed in the Council packets and on the city website.
Councilmember Wheaton said his only concern in regard to this issue is the incident that spurred this discussion when three Councilmembers decided an item shouldn’t be placed on the agenda without consulting the Councilmember who requested the item be placed on the agenda.
Councilmember Crockett commented that the city is a weak mayor form of government meaning that the Mayor has no more authority or control over the agenda than any other Councilmember.
Councilmember Kask added that any resident could approach the Council and request something be placed on the agenda and that Councilmembers have that same right.
It was decided that Councilmembers would review future agendas prior to them being finalized just as they do currently.
7.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Chief Gustafson said most of his report dealt with the hiring of Officer Nordell and the retirement of Sergeant Liners.
Mayor Pro Tem Skrede asked about the Halloween open house. Chief Gustafson said they got between sixty and seventy kids, which is below the usual number.
B.
Excelsior Fire District
C.
Public Works
City
Administrator Young gave a report of the October and November activity
report. Mayor Pro Tem Skrede informed
the Council that they approved, under the Consent Agenda, monies that will help
solve two of the city’s stormwater issues.
D.
Administration
City
Administrator Young gave an overview of the memo he submitted to the
Council. Mayor Pro Tem Skrede asked
about the tax capacity. Young said the
current tax rate for the city is 16.8% which is below State average and the
thirty-third lowest in the State.
Mayor
Pro Tem Skrede asked if the Council would like to meet with Kyle Hunt and
Partners regarding their T.I.F. proposal at a worksession on November 20th. Councilmembers agreed to a worksession.
8.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn by Councilmember Wheaton, seconded by Councilmember
Crockett. Motion carried 4-0. The meeting adjourned at 10:35 p.m.
Respectfully
submitted,
Gus
Karpas
Zoning
Coordinator