DEEPHAVEN PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY MAY 16, 2006
7:00 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Dyb called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman Dan Dyb, Commissioners Joan Budd, Walter Linder, Warren Nelson, Josh Sparber and Bob Werneiwski.
ABSENT: Commissioners Joan Budd and Jeff McKinney
OTHERS PRESENT: Councilmember Kim Crockett and Zoning Coordinator Gus Karpas
Motion by Commissioner Nelson, second by Commissioner Sparber, to approve the minutes of April 18, 2006 as presented. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC
HEARINGS
VARIANCE
– Mark and Lisa Erhard,
The requested setback variances are for fourteen feet, four inches of the required twenty-five foot east side yard setback, for fifteen feet, six inches of the required twenty-five foot west side yard setback and twelve feet, six inches of the required one hundred foot lake yard setback.
The requested impervious surface variance is to exceed the maximum permitted impervious surface area of 25% by 12.7%.
SPECIAL
USE PERMIT – Excelsior Fire District,
Dana George, Interim Fire Chief presented the request. He said that the Fire District established a committee to review the signage needs for the two fire stations and the presented request is what was developed for the “east side” station. The proposed signage would be comprised of nineteen-inch high letters, as shown on the plan, extending twenty-seven feet across the building. A sign company has informed the Fire District that this proposed sign would be readable at one hundred and eighty feet and visible up to seven hundred feet away.
Mr. George said the purpose of the signage is to let the general public, most particularly, those using the trail know there is a fire station in that location in the event there was need for emergency aid. He said the signage is similar in format as that proposed for the “west side” station, only on a smaller scale. He said the Fire District is willing to work with the city
Commissioner Nelson said it was a little weird to see the term Excelsior used on a building in Deephaven. Mr. George said he understood, but noted that is part of the name of the organization.
Chairman Dyb opened the public hearing.
Tom
Pokonowsky,
Hearing no further public comment the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Sparber asked if the sign could be abbreviated and include only the initials E.F.D., which would still be recognizable. He agrees there is a need to identify the building.
Chairman Dyb fully believes there is a need to identify the building but has some concerns. He noted that the city worked hard and went through great pains to give the structure a residential feel. He’s concerned about the proposed letter size and feels signage similar to that on the City Hall is more appropriate. He asked if the Fire District considered placing their logo on the structure, which would be recognizable.
Mr. George said the Fire District would consider it if that were what the city wants. He said that he has been approached by people who didn’t identify the structure as a fire station, so there is a need to identify it. He reminded the Planning Commission that the Fire District serves five cities and as a group selected the name of the Fire District. Though he’s sympathetic to the concerns about the name, there are a number of people who identify with the organization. A large part of the identity crises is the fact the building fits into the character of the City Hall so it is assumed its part of the City Hall.
Commissioner Linder said his first impression was that the sign was too large and something smaller may be more preferable. He’s not bothered with the word Excelsior being included in the text.
Commissioner
Werneiwski confirmed the distances in which the sign could be seen. He said it would only be visible from
Mr. George said the Fire District would not have any problem downsizing the sign and said again they would like to work with the city to find a sign agreeable to both the city and the district.
Chairman Dyb recommended that the request be tabled to the June meeting to allow the Fire District to compile a number of options for the Commission’s review. Mr. George was agreeable.
VARIANCE
– 10 Spring Homes,
Scott Rosenlund, 10 Spring Homes, presented the request. The request is to remove the existing home and construct a new home. He said the lot is deceiving in that it’s listed as four acres in size, but once you remove the area below the OHWL and the wetlands you are left with under an acre.
Chairman Dyb opened the public hearing. Hearing no public comment, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Werneiwski didn’t have an issue with the request though he thinks the requested variance on the lake side is substantial. He is supportive of the request in that it is an improvement over what currently exists.
Commissioner Sparber asked if it would be better to permit an encroachment into another yard in place of the lake yard. He questioned whether there was topographic reason for the proposed location. He suggested the applicant reconfigure the home to lessen the encroachment.
Commissioner Linder said he was troubled by the extent of the encroachment into the required lake yard setback. He said it is aggressive and more than what appears to be necessary to develop the property. He is opposed to the request since there appear to be design alternatives available to lessen the lake yard encroachment.
Council
Liaison Crockett noted the discussion of the Council on the lake yard issue on
the back bay saying that they felt the front yard setback was more important in
the area due to the traffic levels on
Commissioner Nelson agreed with Linder in that the requested encroachment is unnecessary. He feels the house is pushed towards the lake pretty far into the required setback. He believes there are design alternatives available to the applicant. He noted that the property is a nice piece of property and he’s sympathetic to the applicant’s plight but doesn’t see a hardship.
Commissioner Sparber agrees there are design alternatives. He said if the city wanted to reduce the setback to fifty feet they would have reduced it when they changed it. He is opposed to the request.
Chairman Dyb said the property is a difficult one to develop. These types of lots are common in the city. Even though they are equally important, he would rather see an additional encroachment into another required yard rather than push a structure into the lake setback. He would support a setback similar to what currently exists on the property. He thinks the applicant should look at alternative configurations.
Mr.
Rosenlund reiterated that the open water is over three hundred feet away and
that the configuration of the lot is unique.
Chairman Dyb said there is more than just an aesthetic issue when it
comes to the lake setback.
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Sparber to recommend
that the City Council deny the variance request to encroach five feet, seven
inches into the required twenty-five foot rear side yard setback and seventeen
feet, five inches into the required seventy-five foot lake yard setback for the
proposed single family home at
LIAISON
REPORT
Council Liaison Kim Crockett said the Council took action on two requests from the previous Planning Commission meeting.
The first item was the request from Shawn and Angela Sherlock to exceed the maximum permitted accessory structure area. After evaluating the request, it was denied by a 4-1 vote. Councilmember Kask was of the opinion that the square footage of both stories has to be considered, therefore increasing the requested area by seven hundred and twenty feet. Mr. Kask provided a synopsis of the history of Deephaven and noted the hard work by the city to keep the single family character of the city. The Council had issues with the sewer hook-up and the potential for the structure to be converted into living space.
The second item was the requested pool by Steve and Pam Schechtman. After analysis of the ordinance, consideration of the request and input from the neighbors, it was decided, using the discretionary power of the Council that the request be denied. It was denied by a 5-0. She said that even though the Schechtman’s agreed to comply with all the conditions of the Planning Commission, there was no guarantee successive owners would follow them.
She said Mayor Anderson took the perspective that it would be a public safety issue in that others would look at the encroachment and would seek their own encroachments using the pool as an example. He believes that setbacks were created to create buffers between neighbors and uses that other neighbors may not want to share in.
In other action, Councilmember Crockett said the city is considering a moratorium on swimming pools and other “luxury amenities” while the accessory structure portion of the ordinance is studied and potentially amended. The actual vote on the moratorium was continued to give the public the opportunity to become aware of it and give them a chance to comment.
NEW BUSINESS
Councilmember Crockett said that she would like to see the Planning Commission begin to view requests in a broader sense. She feels there should be efforts made to dig deeper into a request and try to anticipate how the request could affect the city in the long run.
Chairman Dyb said he would like some feedback on the Commission from the Commissioners. He would like to hear their thoughts and criticisms on the procedures of the Commission and any issues they may have with his role as the Chairman. He would like both positive and negative feedback.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Chairman Dyb to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Werneiwski seconded. The motion carried 5-0. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gus Karpas
Zoning Coordinator